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Is this Theological Escapism?

The Minnesota Star Tribune wrote an article about John Piper’s and Leith Anderson’s recent non-stance on Minnesota’s Marriage amendment. You can read it here. I sent the article link out to a few local folks in Arkansas.

Here is what i wrote in the email sent out:

I think Piper should have gone all the way and put his sermon to context/application and brought in the marriage amendment. Not sure why he wouldn’t. Is silence on this point compromise, ultimately? This fear in the pulpit, concerning political stuff, must end. The puritans fired meaningful and God-directed salvos at politicians in their day.

Here is the response from a local pastor:

My two cents.

We’ve faced this issue many times at FamilyLife. Our stand has been to speak clearly and boldly about what the Bible teaches regarding marriage, but to stay away from any specific direction about how those biblical standards are best addressed in governmental policy. So we would say clearly “God’s design for marriage is for one man and one woman to be united in a covenant relationship for a lifetime (Dr. Piper says that same thing clearly in the book he has written on marriage).

But, we would not endorse a piece of legislation, a political candidate or a public policy position.

So, we would say “Marriage according to the Bible is always one man and one woman in a lifetime covenant relationship. Keep that in mind as you prayerfully consider how and for whom you will vote.”

That keeps the prophet focused on declaring the truth of God’s word, but does not put him in the position of suggesting that God is in favor of a constitutional amendment or a particular bill or a particular office holder.

Here is another response from a Missouri pastor:

No…he did not tell the entire truth. In my humble opinion he should have said there is no way you can call yourself a Christian if you refuse to vote NO on this issue. Close my church……take away my "tax exempt status…..do whatever you gotta do…..but we are voting no.

That’s what I would do….but hey….no one has ever asked me how to grow a church…..!

Here is a snapshot of what Pat Necerato’s said at Go, Stand, Speak:

This November, the people of Minnesota will be asked to decide whether the state Constitution should define marriage as being between one man and one woman. This amendment, if passed, would limit the freedom to marry for gay and lesbian couples in Minnesota. My question to you is…why would a Pastor of one of the largest congregation’s in that state refrain from telling his flock to vote against this legislation?

Answer: It’s not his job. Or so he says.

Here’s a quote from well known Pastor, John Piper on why he did not urge his Minneapolis church congregation to vote "no" against this bill. Piper said to reporters, “Don’t press the organization of the church or her pastors into political activism.” Piper said during his sermon, posted on Bethlehem Baptist Church’s website. “Expect from your shepherds not that they would rally you behind political candidates or legislative mandates, but they would point you over and over again to God and to his word.”

Now, giving Pastor Piper the benefit of the doubt, he did speak out against homosexuality and did endorse biblical marriage in his sermon BUT he slammed on

the brakes when it came time to tell his people to take action against this ungodly vote…

With all due respect to any pastor reading this and John Piper, this is completely inconsistent with biblical and historical Christianity. And not to mention, a complete

embarrassment to the witness of the Christian church as a whole. I must say very frankly (and not with the intention of insulting anyone in particular), the theological escapism/retreatism that has overpowered the pulpits in this country (and beyond) has made the Western Church look like nothing more than a self-help, get saved from hell, take me off to heaven, it’s not my job, shrink clinic. The false notions of "Jesus didn’t get involved in social issues" and "His kingdom is

not of this world" has left the church sitting on the sideline. Instead of discipling nations we’ve become nothing more than a clanging symbol. (See our "resource"

section at gostandspeak.com for more info on the meaning of the scriptures above and how they often get misconstrued.)

Loving our neighbor, being salt and light, being a voice for the voiceless, exposing the deeds of darkness, being a light on the hill and discipling nations takes more

than promoting personal piety or a devoted personal life…it means "speaking out" and "doing" for Christ…in every facet of life.

Don’t me wrong, we hear some preaching against sin.

But why do we sometimes hear "abortion is wrong," but then hardly ever hear the words "go out to the clinic and protest"?

Why do we sometimes hear, "homosexuality is wrong" but the words "vote against this bill" or "protest at the statehouse" are nowhere to be heard?

[Read more here]

Here is another article by GodFather Politics for your consideration.

Amen to Pat Necerato…The church is to be that decisive point precisely where the devil is crossing the path of the gospel. They are to make disciples of all nations and TEACH them how to live day-by-day and to establish in the culture the life blood of Jesus Christ. "Behold your God!"

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Richard C. Hagen

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The business of Pastors (Oops, I mean ALL Christians)

Whitefield once wrote:

I was honored today with having a few stones, dirt, rotten eggs and pieces of dead cats thrown at me.

-George Whitefield, a famous preacher who preached over 18,000 sermons between 1736-1770

In fact, John Wesley told his disciples that persecution was a mark of success: He would teach them, train them, then send them out. When they came back he would ask them two questions:

Did anyone get saved?

If they answered yes, he would keep them in his ministry. If they answered no, he would ask them another question:

Did anyone get mad?

If they answered no he would tell them,

You are not called to the ministry!

And Charles Spurgeon, called the Prince of Preachers, said this:

To be laughed at is no great hardship to me. I can delight in scoffs and jeers. Caricatures, lampoons, and slanders are my glory. But that you should turn from your own mercy, this is my sorrow. Spit on me, but, oh, repent! Laugh at me, but, oh, believe in my Master! Make my body as the dirt of the streets, but damn not your own souls!

Let the love of Jesus constrain you to go out into the highways and hedges to compel poor sinners to come in. Some may say, ‘This is not proceeding with a zeal according to knowledge;’ but I am persuded, when the power of religion revives, the gospel must be propagated in the same manner as it was first established, by itinerant preaching.

Go, dear sir, go and follow your glorious Master without the camp, bearing His reproach. Never fear the scourge of the tongue, ot the threatenings that are daily breathed out against the Lord, and against His Christ. Suffer we must. Ere long perhaps, we may sing in prison, and have our feet in stocks; but faith in Jesus turns a prison into a palace, and makes a bed of flames become a bed of down. Let us be faithful today, and our Lord will support us tomorrow.

George Whitefield (1749-1769) wrote

I love those that thunder out the Word. The Christian World is in a dead sleep. Nothing but a loud voice can awaken them out of it.

Chinese translation of the above:

怀特菲尔德曾经写道:“我很荣幸今天有几块石头,污物,臭鸡蛋,我扔死猫件。”乔治Whitefield的,著名的传教者之间的1736至1770年超过18000说教宣扬

事实上,约翰卫斯理告诉他的弟子的迫害,是一个成功的标志:他会教他们,培养他们,然后将它们发送出去。当他们回来时,他会问他们两个问题:“没有人得救了吗?”如果他们的回答是肯定的,他会留在他的部。如果他们回答说没有,他会问另一个问题:“有没有人生气呢?”如果他们的回答是他会告诉他们,“你是不是所谓的部!”

和查尔斯吉翁,被称为传教士王子,曾这样说:“要在没有很大的困难,我笑了。我可以高兴在嘲笑和嘲笑。漫画,讽刺和污蔑,是我的荣耀。但是,你应该从你自己的怜悯,这是我的悲哀。吐在我身上,但是,哦,忏悔!笑我,但是,呵呵,相信我的主人!的街道上的污垢,我的身体,但该死的不是你自己的灵魂!“

“让耶稣的爱限制你进入高速公路和对冲迫使贫困的罪人进来,有些人可能会说,”这不是一个根据知识的热情出发,“但我persuded,当电源宗教复兴,福音必须以同样的方式传播,因为它是流动的说教,首次建立了。
“去吧,亲爱的主席先生,在营中去,并按照你的光荣的主人,他的责备。不要害怕舌头的祸害,OT每天呼吸对主,对他的基督的threatenings。受苦,我们必须。 ,不久或许,我们可能会在监狱里唱,在我们脚下的股票,但在耶稣的信仰变成一座宫殿的一座监狱,并使得火焰床成为床上下来。让我们忠实的今天,我们的主会支持我们的明天。“
乔治Whitefield的(1749年至1769年)中写道:

“我爱那些风头出单词,说:”乔治Whitefield的。 “基督教世界是一个死的睡眠。它不过是一个响亮的声音能唤醒他们。“

The True Christian is a warrior

“If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved; and to be steady on all the battlefield besides, is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point.” – Martin Luther

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